Babri Masjid, iterations and stuff


“Babri Masjid – Ram Mandir” issue is definitely not going to get resolved for next couple of centuries, as long as religions exist, or as long as people seriously follow religions. A Court verdict is not going to change anything. Either one of sides will to play victim card or appeasement card. Even if court gives a perfect verdict, religions won’t accept them, they can’t, because they are not supposed to!. Remember, these religions (or interpretations, if you want it that way) mandate follower to destroy existing structure and build their own, whenever applicable. It could go for infinite loop, but hey! Religions can’t give up!

Babri Mosque
Babri Mosque - image via wikipedia

Babri Masjid issue is still young, it just going through second iteration! We have bigger examples, one with with seven iterations! Somnath temple! Both Domestic and Middle Eastern Muslim kingdoms kept destroying it, and Indian kings kept building it. Seven iterations are silly and painful! But hey, they are religions – just see what they make people do.

Iterations: Read Wikipedia for more information

Initial construction is in mythology. If history is considered first one was built by the Yadava kings of Vallabhi around 649 AD.

1st: In 725 Junayad, the Arab governor of Sind, sent his armies to destroy the second temple. Gurjara Pratihara king Nagabhata II constructed the third temple in 815.

2nd: In 1024 A.D.the temple was destroyed by Mahmud Ghazni.  Rebuilt by Paramara King Bhoj of Malwa and the Solanki king Bhima of Gujarat between 1026 and 1042.

3rd: In 1296 A.D., the temple was destroyed by Sultan Allauddin Khilji’s army.  Rebuilt by Mahipala Deva, the Chudasama king of Saurashtra in 1308 A.D.

4th: In 1375 A.D the temple was once again destroyed by Muzaffar Shah I, the Sultan of Gujarat. About 1400 A.D. it was reconstructed by the local public.

5th:1451 A.D the temple was once again destroyed by Mahmud Begda, the Sultan of Gujarat.  reconstructed again.

6th In 1701 A.D the temple was once again destroyed by Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb. Aurangzeb built a mosque on the site of the Somnath temple. Queen Ahilyabai Holkar of Indore rebuilt the temple in 1783 A.D adjacent to the mosque.

In 1947 newly formed Indian government moved the mosque to nearby location and built currently existing structure.
Phew,! See this is the problem with religion. You need to spend whole time building and destroying religious structures, endlessly!

Religious tolerance


This is a million dollar photo, couldn’t help but sharing it. A Muslim mother preparing her son for a competition generally held on Krisha-Janmashtami (translation: Krishna’s birth day), a rare scene, at least for me! I have never seen anything like before.

Muslim mother Krishna son
Religious tolerance

I don’t know what level of answer it provides for the doubts raised on religious intolerance, may not be a lot. May be it is a remote case. But, this does show a straight middle finger to clerics who declare “thou shall not worship Gods of other religion”.

Credits: I don’t know whom to give credit, looks like nobody does! For the time being thanks to Jo for sharing it.

Forward this to 10 friends, or else ..


Few of my friends are increasingly afraid of mail Gods lately.  They are flooding inbox with their new fears, asking me to forward the mails to few my friends. Unfortunately I block them or mark as spams, they are still good friends.

It would be big waste of time, if I keep replying them. Instead, I thought, they better idea would be post it here and send them the link. May be I can keep adding the sample Gods to this list, when a mail arrives I can say “Gotcha! I already got these months back; I read it and took no action, and here I am safe and sound!”

In case you get such a mail, instead of forwarding, please reply (to all) and ask them to grow up.

Two samples in my collection :

Sample 1 :

Chainmailrie
Chainmail

Class 1 Officer of Indian government  received this picture and called it ‘junk mail’, 8 days later his husband died. A man received this picture and immediately sent out copies…his surprise was winning the  10 crorerupees  & promotion in job

T. Ratan  received this picture, gave it to his secretary to make copies but they forgot to distribute: she lost her job and he lost his family.

This picture is miraculous and sacred, don’t forget to forward this within 1 days to at least 20 people. Do Not Forget to forward and you will receive a huge surprise!!

sorry couldn’t ignore

Sample 2

Chainmail

Chainmail

The President of Argentina received this picture and called it “junk mail”. 8 days later his son died..

A man received this picture & immediately sent out copies..his surprise was winning the lottery.

Alberto Martinez received this picture, gave it to his secretary to make copies but they forgot to distribute: She lost her job & he lost his family.

This picture is miraculous & sacred. Forward to 10 people, but not the person who sent it to you.

You were chosen to receive this novena. The moment you receive it, say:

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name, Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven, give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

GOD WANTED ME TO TELL YOU, It shall be well with you this coming year. No matter how much your enemies try this year, they will not succeed.

You have been destined to make it and you shall surely achieve all of your goals this year.

For all of 2010, all your agonies will be diverted and victory and prosperity will be incoming in abundance.

Today God has confirmed the end of your sufferings, sorrows and pain because HE that sits on the throne has remembered you. He has taken away the hardships and given you JOY. He will never let you down…

I knocked at heaven’s door this morning. God asked me, “My child! What can I do for you?” And I said, ‘Father, please protect and bless the person reading this message’. This is a Novena from Mother Theresa that started in 1952. It has never been broken.

Within 48 hours, send 20 copies (or as many as you can – God does know if you don’t have 20 people
to send it to. It’s the effort and intent that counts.) to family and friends.

This is a powerful Novena.

Couldn’t hurt. Can only help.Please do not break it

Changing my religion


I am changing my religion, again. I am joining one of those intellectuals who chose to become religious for gaining access to lucrative heaven and avoid horrendous hellfire. I thank all my friends who continuously warned me and predicted “One day you will give up all Godless concepts, and start believing”. Well here I am, please applaud. I found a right religion for me – Pastafarianism.

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Before I discuss further on this religion let me apprise you with my background. I’ve been a “devote” atheist my entire life. Well, not exactly “entire”. First few years of my life I was part of a religion which was inherited. Luckily, I was exposed to rational Ideas of Atheism through well-wishers, who I thank till date. Atheism came as good news to me; with this I dint have to follow all the rituals, rules and fears prescribed. It looked very logical and obvious.

<Satire>back on<Satire>

Then came a day a good friend of mine asked a million dollar question. “If there is no God, then who is David Gilmore?” I was speechless! I dint have an answer to it ever since. All my study of Holy Scriptures (Dawkins etc) went total waste. That day I realised there few things even atheism cannot answer, there is certainly something beyond these moral less, bloodthirsty atheism. So I had to look for new religion to follow, and I found this.

Pastafarianism is similar to all the religion we have around. It has a prophet, God, commandments, holy book, holidays and rituals. What’s missing here? If you find anything missing, just let them know they’ll create it for you. (See, it’s that flexible).

Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) came into existence (revelation) during dark ages of America when few of the religions try to invade the education system claiming their beliefs to be taught in science classes. Idea was to introduce intelligent design (previously creationism) along with evolution. This would also mean, eventual introduction of Alchemy with Chemistry, Astrology with Astronomy etc. Suddenly FSM came out of Chinese take-away box and instructed prophet on why he is created in first place, and asked him to spread the message.

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Touched by His Noodly Appendage - Flying Spaghetti Monster
Touched by His Noodly Appendage – image via wikipedia

Then it all started a new religion. A simple open letter to school board of education has become a global phenomena and a new religion with all mandatory features. To provide an idea on vision of Bob (in turn FSM) I am pasting one of his statements here:

I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country. And eventually the world; One third of the time for Intelligent design one third of time to Flying Spaghetti monster, and one third of time for the logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence. – Bobby Henderson

Please read more about it in open letter, at least in Wikipedia.

Below, I am trying to list down some major features, to provide you an overall picture.

Name of the religion: Pastafarianism.

Deity: Flying Spaghetti Monster, referred as FSM hereafter. FSM consists of a portion of noodles with meatballs in it. Vegetarians can worship noodles with Veg Manchurian, I am pretty sure FSM won’t mind.

It’s a bizarre deity, but hey, no-one proved the FSM doesn’t look so.

First Prophet:  Bob Henderson. Physics graduate. Please don’t raise your eye-brows here!

First commandment: An open letter to Kansas Education board.

Holy books:  The Gospel of Flying spaghetti monster. The holy book of the church of Flying spaghetti monster

I am the Flying spaghetti Monster, Thou shalt have no other Monster before me (afterwards is OK; just use protection.) The only Monster who deservers capitalisation is me. Other monsters are false monsters, undeserving capitalisation. – Suggestions 1:1

Heaven: Beer Volcano with stripper factory

Hell: Beer Volcano with stripper factory (beer is stale, strippers have std)

Major belief: Global Warming is inversely proportional to the number of pirates in the world. Over the period of time pirates are extinct, increasing the greenhouse gases, thus increasing global warming. For example, if you look at Somalia which has most number of pirates, but minimum amount of per capita greenhouse gasses are emitted.  How true!

relationship between pirates and global temperature
relationship between pirates and global temperature – image via wikipedia

India down to knees ..


I feel we have lost a definition of word “insult”. We are dying to find an insult in something and we are waiting for it to happen. Take our National anthem; you translate it – Insult! Instrumental? – Insult! Sung for more than 52 seconds? – Insult! Less? – Insult! Lower/higher pitch – Insult!

Most of the time I don’t get what exactly is an insult. If Mandira is wearing this is an insult, then why not those thousands tri-color clad fans acting crazy is an insult. Why those thousands of plastic tri-colors in dustbins on next day to Aug 15, is not an insult. I want to know very badly why it is insult if mandira does it, and why it is not when this woman does it.

she was in a saree — designed by Puneet Nanda of designer label Satya Paul — that had flags of all countries in the World Cup.

By the time the showers had done their two bits, Bedi was back on air with a different saree. But the damage was already done. Puneet Nanda had to apologise. “I didn’t think our flag would end up near Bedi’s foot. I am sorry,” he told

The controversy comes at a time when Akal Takht, the highest body of Sikh religious affairs, accepted the apology of Bedi pertaining to the use of a Sikh religious symbol on her body as a tattoo – DNA

Puneet Nanda tells. “I didn’t think our flag would end up near Bedi’s foot. I am sorry,” In other words that would be “I am sorry that we insulted ours, alas … It should’ve been theirs”. Just imagine what would have happened if Indian and Pakistan flags just interchanged(they are currently in lucky spot). I guess Musharraf would have tested his next missile EOD